Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: We're the bosses in the South Making money moves Turning dreams into streams yeah.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: We never lose Columbia's finest building from the ground Flipping stacks to billions we.
[00:00:09] Speaker A: Wear the crown Bosses of Columbia we're running the scene Flipping small town hustle in the big time green.
[00:00:19] Speaker C: Hey.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Welcome to the bosses of Columbia.
So we're gonna get right into it.
Yes, we are.
So we can get it over with.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: So she came up here upset.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Well, I did get pulled over on the way here. You saw it on Facebook. Because I saw that you commented.
So I'm just ready to get home, keep her in prayer, have me a cocktail.
But anywho, so are there any events going on in Columbia, upcoming events? I mean by the time the people see this, the truck festival is today. So by the time people see this here and gone.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: The only thing that I could think of is.
So we have a gentleman in Columbia, he's a concert promoter and he put out the concert of the year the other day. Tickets went on sale. It's coming up in August, August 23rd. So he's bringing Trina, 8Ball, MJG, Young Bloods, who else was on it?
Damn, I'm missing somebody. Pastor TROY, Lot of 90s artists who were big back in the day. But I had been telling him, so I'm his massage therapist, right?
So they sound. And he, and he always, this is one of my gentleman friends who loves to pick my brain. So he's always asking me like who should we bring to Columbia? Who should we bring to Columbia? Because he promotes concerts.
So you know, and we've. He'll throw some artists at me and I'll be like, well yeah, I might go see that, might not, you know, and he may go with one that I suggest or both or however. But I have been telling him forever. I said man, if you don't bring them damn. And 90s rappers back and just have a whole like summer fest or something. Cause this is stuff that we used to do back in Virginia, like. And I just feel like this lineup, you know how you always go to a concert and you'll be like, well yeah, I like them, but I don't really have to see the other person. Yeah, like, but everybody on this lineup was like one of my go tos back in the day.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: So.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: So I was like, hell yeah, you want to see? I'mma be out there lit the whole night.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: See, you are from New York and you grew up well, you spent a lot of time. You've been here since high school, right? So you're Familiar with a lot of those artists. Those artists wouldn't appeal to you.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: Okay, that.
[00:03:08] Speaker C: That's a winning concert, but.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: Well, you're from Alabama.
[00:03:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: So we kind of had the same. But I guess. So who were the artists back in the 90s that.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: It would have been back in the 90s? Snoop Dogg, Cameron, Nate Dogg, Ice Cube, the West coast rappers. Because that's where I was on the West Coast.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: Okay. And so I will say I don't.
I don't do west coast like that.
However, I was a fan of Snoop Dogg. Not like I would go into a Snoop Dogg concert because, no, I don't love him like that. Well, yeah, so. But I just think, just depending on how you vibe and what kind of music you like or, you know, the genre.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: The 90s and 2000s, that's cash money and all that for us.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: See, I'm not a big dm. I was never a big DMX fan.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: And DMX is from New York.
[00:04:09] Speaker C: I wouldn't go to a concert for him.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Right.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: I mean, I like his songs, but for me to pay for a concert, I wouldn't go to.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I think I just. I guess it's just all in what you like. And, you know, you like what you like. But this was a great lineup, and I really hope this concert sells out because just being in Columbia, I know that there are a lot of people, because I club with these people in Columbia in the 90s. So this is the music that, you know, we was out on the floor. Everybody was on the floor.
[00:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah, that's Southern. That's Southern hip hop through our whole area era.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: And I'm gonna tell you, DJ something, because this is something that I noticed the last couple of times that I've been out, and I don't go out much if the people ain't on the floor dancing. Because I went to this festival in Charleston, the people are not on the floor dancing and having a good time.
Play something else. Well, this ain't. This ain't what it is.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: While you're saying that and everybody don't like line dancing, I've seen. Okay. And so I've seen a lot of posts circulating lately about this. They're saying the DJs are saying, this isn't the people. The DJs are saying that when they do play music other than line dancing, they can't get people on the floor. That if they are play line dancing, that's when everybody comes out. I am like, you know, I was loving the line dancing. This is before everybody Started line dancing but now it's just too much. It's overwhelming.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't never have to hear Boots on the Ground ever again in my life.
[00:05:45] Speaker B: And we support you 803fresh. We, we really do. We're happy for your success. We've seen the first lady, Michelle Obama.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: And we seen Oprah Winfrey.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: We done seen everybody doing boots on the ground. And we are. I will tell you, I'm sick of Ms. Shirley though. I am sick of the little girl that's popping up that fan and popping her ass. Like if she don't sit her ass down, she just.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: She's, she's loving, she's in her mom. It's a moment right now.
[00:06:13] Speaker C: She's the product of an adult.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Right. She having her moment right now. But now that even too much.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: You don't see. You seen that little girl grinding? No, I don't seen it popping, but did you see her grinding?
[00:06:23] Speaker A: I didn't see.
I don't keep seeing kids in dance competitions doing work.
[00:06:27] Speaker B: Yeah, but she was she solo dolo by herself of going to grown adult establishment adult clubs. Them grown. Them kids and them.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: I don't think she.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Competitions and stuff are with other kids their age, their peers. This little girl is going to grown people establishments, bars, clubs.
And she's a really, really pretty and really, really cute little girl.
Very entertaining. But it is too much. And it's no way around that.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah, y' all gotta remember men are men and some of em are Chesters, the child molesters. And yeah, ain't no chill with that. So be mindful of that.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: But they done call CPS on that girl. You know that. On her mama girl. Somebody from another city.
[00:07:19] Speaker C: That's the mama's responsibility. She's the one who profiting off of it. That's who's doing it. It ain't the baby doing it.
[00:07:26] Speaker D: Right.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: So it's not the baby, it's not her idea.
And I think it's just a sad.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: It is.
I'm hoping that the mother is not exploiting the daughter. I'm hoping that this is something that she wants to do.
[00:07:42] Speaker C: And beyond that, the child can. If you don't let a child hear Boots on the Ground, they would never know what it is.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:07:49] Speaker C: So it's definitely the adult thing.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: It is definitely her. She's getting paid and she's getting paid a lot. And it's okay that you're getting paid for your child's success. Like you said, it's Disney children.
It's just what she's doing and how she's dressing. I mean, did you see her in the red dress and the red heels with the wig on and.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: No, I didn't see that.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Oh, Lord, child, it.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: I saw her. I saw her with Niecy Nash on Jennifer Hudson. I thought she was cute.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: She is very cute.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: She was doing a lot of popping.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: I was like, oh, okay, it's a lot of popping, but it's the grinding, it's the getting dressed in the black on the red dress and the heels and all this. And I'm like, this is too much for a child.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: I don't look at it.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: So, yeah, I started saying, not interested when I sit there.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: I just so saw the Jennifer Hudson show. But yeah, because the song is so annoying, I tend to scroll through.
I mean, literally, I was at the event in Charleston. I went to, he performed.
[00:08:56] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:08:57] Speaker A: Yes. And so, of course, everybody went out line dance when he came, when he did that song. But he had.
And this is where you have to take yourself out of yourself for a minute.
I was so like, oh, God, I don't wanna hear this fucking song. Jesus. I'm sitting at the table, right? And my cousins are enjoying it. I'm not gonna disturb their peace, their time. So he started singing his other songs. I said, wait a minute, this dude can actually sing. He's actually talented. The music went out for a minute. He sung acapella. That's a great voice.
And sung a song that I had never heard before. I said, now I gotta go shazam this little song. Because it was just an R B song. It wasn't a line dance song. It was a nice little R B melody song. And I was like, okay, I. I could get into this, but if I had just stuck in my mind, I hate this.
We should get off the stage. I wouldn't have been open to enjoying that particular.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: And I've actually met him and he's so humble.
He is a nice guy and he's extremely humble. I don't know what he'll be like a year from now, but right now, when I met him, he was very humble, nice guy. And I know he's in a relationship. I saw him with his stepdaughter. It looks like he have a wonderful relationship with his stepdaughter. I mean, you know, baby, let me tell you something.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Don't let these goddamn one hit wonders make y' all think y' all. The y' all ain't.
Listen, I'm just saying, let that man be happy.
Y' all got enough Folks out here, let's talk about. Let's talk about the Montel Jordans and the vanilla icing and all them.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: It don't look like who's on the ground going anywhere.
Not this.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: Who thought they was on their way. Let's talk about MC Hammers.
Okay, okay, okay.
[00:10:54] Speaker C: He had a bit. He had a little run, though.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: He did.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Mr. 803. Fresh. Get. Pop your. Okay. Pop your fan. Do your goddamn thing.
[00:11:03] Speaker C: He can pop it.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: But see, you gotta always remember. You gotta always remember who you was and where you came from.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: That man is extremely humble, y' all. You ain't gotta tell him to stay humble.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: No, I'm just saying.
You said you don't know where he'll be a year from now, so I'm just saying. Yes. Make sure you remember where you from, because he from Sally, South Carolina.
[00:11:27] Speaker C: I don't even know, child.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: It's nothing. I'm gonna just tell you.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Every piece of land, something that God.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: That man made that sliced us with. They need to give him the key to the little city of Sally, South Carolina, because he made that shit with this.
Let me tell you something. I ran through the.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: They did give him a key to something. They gave him something. Something Columbia gave him something. I think Columbia, the university. I mean, he been getting stuff. I mean, Beyonce had him. Was singing his song up there. You heard Beyonce singing the song.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: But I mean, it's just like.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Well, that's bigger than the key to his city.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: Do we. Do we have another celebrity from here?
[00:12:14] Speaker C: Me, I don't know.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Okay, so another artist, but she's not really from Colombia. I want to say it's a. It's an actress from.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: There was a.
A celebrity that just passed recently from Columbia. Right?
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Just passed.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: And it was really, really big. They can't. They had the services here, and I think they had some kind of confusion over how the pastor, the sermon over her homegoing service.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: Angie Stone.
Yes.
[00:12:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: She died in la.
Angie, of course, should have been, you know, one of those people, because she was actually from Columbia.
[00:12:59] Speaker C: Really?
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Yes. So, I mean, me and Angie are. Well, we are members of the same church. Oh.
So I, in passing, have known her for, you know, because she would come into church and sit into church as though, you know, she wasn't a celebrity. I've seen her several times in church, so that. That is one who. I would say, you know, she went to C.A. johnson.
She, you know, always came to town. I don't know if she owned a home here, but that's somebody Who I could see you probably giving the city to.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: Giving the key to the city, too. But he ain't.
You don't know that, man.
I don't. And I don't mean this, you know, with any malice, but he's brought a.
[00:13:51] Speaker B: Lot of recognition but he's brought a lot of recognition to the state of South Carolina.
[00:14:01] Speaker C: So did Janelle, the girl who dancing. But that don't mean nothing.
They all from South Carolina. Janelle, the other dark, the white girl.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: The white black girl I just found today.
That Phylicia Rashad was from South Carolina. Yes. She talked about her mother, how her parents met in Chester, South Carolina.
[00:14:21] Speaker C: What was Black Panther? He was from South Carolina.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Right.
So there you go. And he was from Anderson, so he should have got the key.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: He Mr. 803 FRESH.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: We can acknowledge he was from South Carolina, but he ain't Mr. Columbia. He was Mr. Anderson, S.C. so, yeah, that's just like, if I became a celebrity today or tomorrow and y' all wanted to give me something. Oh, I'm not from there.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: I'm not from where.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: I ain't from no goddamn Columbia, South Carolina. Y' all gotta give me the key to shit in South Carolina. Cause I ain't even.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: I don't care if I pay taxes.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: But this ain't my city. I'm from Bronx, New York. That's who need to give me the recognition. Because I'm your hometown motherfucking hero.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: But you here representing the boss of Columbia, okay?
[00:15:13] Speaker A: Cause this where the fuck I live at. But don't forget this boss was born in the Bronx.
So before I was the boss of Columbia, I was the boss of.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: Okay, so. Okay, so we can go. No, we gonna. So how long.
How many years you spent in Columbia and how many years you spent in the Bronx?
[00:15:34] Speaker A: It don't matter.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: It don't matter, period. So do you consider yourself a South Carolinian?
[00:15:40] Speaker C: I mean, you're a New Yorker, right?
[00:15:42] Speaker A: You're a New Yorker, right? Do you consider yourself a South Carolinian? You consider yourself an Alabama.
[00:15:47] Speaker C: Alabama. Mobile all the way.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Okay, so you consider yourself a South Carolinian, or do you consider yourself.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: I live in South Carolina, so that's.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: What I asked you, ma' am, are you a South Carolinian or.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: So since I've been kind of all over.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: But you Rep. Cali. I've been all over Rep. Cali in New Orleans.
Do you not. I do. Okay.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: But I am a boss of Colombia.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: And I said I was.
I said I heard you loud and clear. But.
But true to the game, New York.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: If I had to pick one place, and I say this because it raised me from a little girl, the age of three, it would have to be Los Angeles.
So, yeah, it would have to be Los Angeles. I'm from New Orleans, and I've spent a lot of time in New Orleans, and I love my city. I love the culture of New Orleans.
But honestly, when I'm talking, you don't hear that accent or anything, because Los Angeles raised me west side.
[00:17:03] Speaker A: And I don't think it has anything to do with accents, because I think you lose your accent after being away for so long.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Well, I never had the New Orleans accent. So no matter where I go in the world, you know, if I go to Los Angeles, they say I don't talk like I'm from Los Angeles. If I go to New Orleans, I don't speak like I'm from New Orleans. If I go to. You know, I spent a good amount of time, almost a decade in Jersey. I don't speak like I'm from Jersey, and I damn sure don't speak like I'm from South Carolina.
[00:17:31] Speaker C: I don't. I don't sound like I'm from Mobile. Every time I go there, they were like, where are you from?
Yeah, I'm from here. You don't sound like.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: When I'm. When I go home to, you know, maybe for a trip or whatever. To New York. You from here? Yes.
[00:17:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: But it's not about what I sound like. It's about what.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Every now and again, it comes from what.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah, every now and again, it's still here. There. Hit or miss, but it's what flows through your veins. I was just about to say New York City girl.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Tried and true. Nobody can take this grit and this hustle away from me.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: It is what it is, and I don't resonate. And that's why I find myself. And this is the truth, honestly, surrounded by people, even though I'm in Colombia, surrounded by people who aren't from Columbia. Most of my. My. My people are not from Colombia.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: And so I consider myself a transient.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Even Nikki and them are not. And I did tell them that you wanted to do a dog care Wednesday.
And I talked to Nikki and Ronnie yesterday, and so they're. They're wanting to do it, too. And then that game room. I sent y' all the game room, right?
Maybe I just sent it to Nikki and them, but they want to do that as well, so.
But yeah.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: But, yeah, I just.
Mm. Mm. I'm. I'm not gonna claim nothing that ain't mine.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: Yeah, somebody told me, well, you ain't been to Mobile for years. I was born here. I graduated from high school here.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: I claim Mobile. I lived in Mobile at some point.
[00:19:11] Speaker C: I graduated from there. I lived there my entire life. If I wasn't in the military, where would have I been?
[00:19:18] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, I think it's just all in what you embrace.
[00:19:21] Speaker B: LA is in me. Like I just said with the whole music and you know, when you're talking about young bloods and all these people that I didn't listen to growing up, I did listen to cash money and no limit soldiers and all that. You know, I'm from New Orleans too.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: So you pick who you love. So when we get to cash money in New Orleans. I've never been like a New Orleans music fan.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Oh, man, I have my picks up. I like natives, I have my picks. Like bounce music, I never was.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: I don't really vibe with bounce music, but that's just like. I spend a lot of time in D.C. yeah. I don't like house music. I. So you can be different places. House music, hell, I'm in. Oh, my God.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: I'm from New York.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: I don't really care for reggae in Jamaican music so much. So I have my select artists, my select songs and music that I like.
[00:20:23] Speaker C: Yeah, now that nitty gritty reggae music, I'm not into that, you know, like.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: So it just depends on now. I'mma tell you, back in the 90s, you couldn't tell me me and x and me wasn't the same person.
I love that bitch. She was the best artist they had on Gangsta Boo.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: I love her.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: I love. Now, I don't know what it is with me and Memphis rappers, but baby, I love three six Mafia.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: Baby.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: I love everybody in three six Mafia. I love a money bag, yo. Yeah. Oh, Project Pat is my nigga.
[00:20:57] Speaker C: I love that.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: The best one they got on me.
[00:20:59] Speaker C: When they had that versus, I said, oh, three six. Maf got this, baby. They got. They got a plethora of. Yes, I love. I love both of the harmony.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: I love Memphis. I love Yo Gotti. I love everyone from Memphis. I ain't never been to Memphis a day in my goddamn life. But I love Memphis rappers.
[00:21:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Don't know why, it just is the vibe.
[00:21:23] Speaker C: Yep, three six was.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: But we gonna come back full circle to what we was talking about because we was talking about Diddy. And we all have to admit we all love Diddy at some point.
[00:21:35] Speaker C: We did take That I love Diddy.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: When he was with JLo, like, around that Diddy, J. Lo time.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Diddy has put out some hits. But. But I'mma tell you. I'mma tell you how I feel about Diddy.
So just the things that I've heard and. And just come to know of, and I don't know of any of this to be true, but just to know of it is very disparaging. I don't.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: It's disturbing.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: It is. It is. And so the same way I feel about R. Kelly now, because I once loved R. Kelly's music, is the same way I feel about Diddy now with his music. So now I feel that.
What kind of head space was you in?
Because you have to remember when you take on somebody's words through music, it enters your soul.
[00:22:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: So now I can't allow myself to really vibe and listen to something that I don't know where. What kind of place you was in when you did that.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: I totally separate the two. I totally separate the music from the artist.
And because we don't know what headspace anybody was in when they created their music. And that can be Beyonce, that could be Anita Baker. That could be anybody. Luther Vandross, you know, he. He sung all those years and he hadn't come out or anything like that, so he was basically singing, to my knowledge, to his lover, who was a man out. And I don't have any judgment in regards to that, but we never know who, what headspace. So I can totally separate the artist from art.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: I ain't got a problem.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: I don't care.
Yeah. I mean, he's in love.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: Yeah. I just said there's no judgment.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: So. So gay to me is not the same to child.
[00:23:29] Speaker C: That's abusive. Yeah, that's.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: To me, it's different or abusive.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Again, I'm. I can. I don't think of. I'm not thinking R. Kelly and just sitting there thinking R. Kelly. As I listen to his music, I do.
[00:23:42] Speaker C: If he say feeling on your booty, I think he's talking about little girl. So I can't. I can't.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: I don't. I think about somebody feeling on my boo. I think about, you know, what that music does for me. It takes me to where I was when I. When that music came out, who I was dating, and all memories I could care less about.
[00:24:00] Speaker A: Baby, let me tell you, when that playlist rolling, when the playlist is rolling and an R. Kelly song come up for a minute, I be like.
[00:24:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: No, I can't do this shit. She turn it off, right?
[00:24:17] Speaker C: I don't turn it off.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: So. But I ain't just gonna be like, yeah, I wanna listen to all R. Kelly today.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Oh, no, no.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: I'm gonna let the shit bump. I'm gonna let the shit bump.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: So when it come through.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: But I ain't just gonna be like, yeah.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: And another thing, another thing about me is because I don't.
I can tell you maybe very little about this Diddy case. I could really tell you very little about the R. Kelly case. I have never. And it may be because I grew up in LA around a lot of celebrities. I went to their parties.
They just was. When I, you know, I traveled a lot back in the day, they would be in the airport. I came across them a lot. Like, they are just regular people to me. So I don't invest in no celebrities. Like, most of the time, when people talking about. Especially if it's an actor or actress, I don't know them because I1 don't watch a lot of TV. And so our. Our movies are any of that.
I don't get involved in their lives. I don't know. And I don't know a lot about these cases. So y' all might know the nitty gritty details of all this stuff. I don't. And I've never cared to. I have a lot of stuff going on in my own life that I can focus on to be focusing on other people in their lives.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: I don't focus on it.
You're going to hear stuff in passing.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah, you hear stuff in passing. But some people, it seems like it's like they know.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: They invested. You got people who watch the trial every day.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Oh, I know.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: And take tidbits of information. Now, that ain't something that I do, but I'mma call a spade a spade.
When Cassie initially first came out, said, you know, and the thing was revealed with him beating her ass at the hotel or whatever, that's not normal behavior.
She stayed with him. Two years after this happened, I put a post on Facebook and I said, I've never been in a domestic violence situation, but I can speak on. A nigga got one time to put their hands on me and I'mma beat his ass, period. Because that's just the nigga I am.
Because when I got my power to step up and stand up for myself as an adult, I vow, wasn't no nigga gonna ever talk crazy to me, put his hands on me, sexually assault me, no nothing. Not without A motherfucking fight. And that's my stance.
[00:26:45] Speaker C: Just leave.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: But I don't knock nobody because they don't have the power to leave. But I could say what I would do.
But I also said the same way. Y' all sitting up here bashing this man for whooping this girl ass in this hotel.
Bash your goddamn daddies.
[00:27:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: And your uncles and your brothers who beat them bitches asses in your family who you go and sit up in their face and ha ha and kiki with and play nice with and don't.
[00:27:15] Speaker C: Tell them they wrong.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: That's the problem that you can't fucking do. Nobody likes to hear when they wrong. They want you to. They want you to congratulate all the other boys.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: They do.
[00:27:24] Speaker C: But they don't like.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: So because he a celebrity, he's an exempt from being. He's somebody daddy, he's somebody brother.
[00:27:32] Speaker C: You got daughters. You will not condone a being your daughter.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:35] Speaker C: Like you did that woman or nothing else. You ain't gonna condone no man doing your. Your daughter like you treat women all right. Like you beat that girl ass. Because you would have had somebody come and kill that man.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:46] Speaker C: If they did that.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: But I don't. They will sit up here and talk crazy about him. But you got people in your family who've been doing it for years. And you condone that.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: And that's what I said, baby. You would have thought.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: I don't think that people. And I'm not defending them because believe me, I'm not getting my ass with. I got too many brothers, cousins, and everybody else that's coming if somebody put their hands on me. Right. But what I will say is I don't think that people are condoning it, but I feel like they're enabling it by not saying anything.
[00:28:17] Speaker C: They are condoning it. If you don't say something, you condone it.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: If you. If you. If you say some people.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Some people mind their damn business.
[00:28:24] Speaker C: No, you cannot mind other people business.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Sometimes get people killed. And then the other person is back with that person. And this person did minding other people.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: Business, that person could end up dead because you didn't say something to them.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: And you could end up dead cause you said something and that other person is back with that person laid up.
[00:28:40] Speaker C: They gonna be looking crazy getting their ass beat.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Well, so when I said. When I draw the line. What I said about drawing the line of I can sit in the same space and enjoy my friend, even though I Don't agree with the man she chooses to be with. Right.
So I guess I should have prefaced that.
So if I know this man is beating my friend's ass.
No.
[00:29:03] Speaker C: You gonna mind your business? Hell, no.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: No, I'm not gonna mind my business because. Hold on. Because if she chooses to stay in that relationship, so that's why I have to draw the line. I can stomach him cheating on you, him talking crazy to you, or whatever differences y' all had, but to sit there knowing that I love you and I know that this man done put his hands on you, I can't be a part of that.
[00:29:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Personally.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: Because now if something happens to you, that's on my conscience, I could have stopped this, and I didn't.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: But are you stopping it by not coming around?
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:29:43] Speaker C: Cause you take your knowledge out of it.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: Because I'm taking me out of that situation. Away from that situation. Because. And I'mma tell you why. And I'mma tell you why. Because when I lived in Virginia, there was a house where a Asian woman lived with her white husband constantly whooping her ass, whipping her ass, whipping her ass. Sister went and got her. Here, there. Here, there.
Sister finally decides, today is the day I'm gonna leave for good. Please come and get me.
When she came, she was dead. This man killed the sister, the wife, and all of their fucking kids in that house.
Had she stayed out of that, maybe she would still be here to tell the story.
I'm just saying how when violence. I just said that when violence gets to that level, I got to back away now because this is too much for me to be involved in. I can handle the little minimal shit.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: I said, sometimes it's the other person. But he done killed everybody, right?
[00:30:53] Speaker A: And then turned around and killed herself, so. So now you can't even be accountable for the shit.
But it's things that I hear going back to the trial. It's things that I hear in the trial. Like, they had a assistant on Stan the other day, and this is just shit I hear randomly in TikTok where she would leave. So, number one, just going by the chef and the assistant, he underpaid his staff like crazy, so. But I could see that because I see how he did his artist. He fucked them over with money. So you gonna keep all the money and then penny pinch with your artist.
Cool. The assistant says she will leave. She will work all day long. All day long and go home and try to get some sleep. This nigga call her and be like, bitch, get your ass back here. I ain't finished with you.
[00:31:41] Speaker C: You gotta be crazy to keep on going back to that type of shit. First of all, you do. You gotta be.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: However. However, in her defense, she says, I'm a young woman. This man could have blackballed me and everything that I'm trying to do with. Because I guess she was working in media and different things like that.
So I had to play the game in order to survive in that situation.
I ain't gonna knock her. Would I have done it? No. But I'm not gonna knock her for the decision that she made. However, for you to have the gall.
For you to have the motherfucking gall that you think that, or the power or the feeling of.
I can just call anybody I want and say, I ain't done. But you bring your ass back over here. I got something else for you to.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: That's how he did them on making a band, though. No, he would make them going, you think you talking to ridiculous stuff to go and get him. Go get me this.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
No.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Celebrities are messing over people like that. Y' all heard about Toya?
So you're right, how she had her show in Atlanta and had all her family on there and got paid millions, a millionaire or something, and didn't give them people anything. It's her uncle who, you know, spoke out against her. So it's just a lot of them celebrities that look like us that's messing over people. And this is her family, like her blood family that's been on her show and she's. She. They say she hasn't given them a.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: Dollar, but why didn't the family.
Now, I ain't defending Toya when I say this, but why didn't the family sit down with whoever, the writers or production team or whatever? Where's our contract to show what we're getting?
[00:33:30] Speaker B: So this uncle had just been released from prison, from my understanding, because, remember, I'm just hearing things. Just like hearing things. Cause I don't go and research some of this stuff because I don't care enough to research anything. So the uncle is just being released from prison. He probably don't know to go and sit down with these people or who to contact or anything like that. Like, I feel like a lot of people are just being taken advantage of. And if that's your family, you gonna. You automatically think your family gonna look out for you. Which sometimes family be the worst ones to do. Go into business with. But.
So, yeah, they probably didn't have the contact. They didn't know or just assume she was going to do the right thing by then.
[00:34:12] Speaker C: Well, after how long you didn't get any money? Did you sit there and wait for this to happen? Years. I mean, when did. When you supposed to get paid?
Like, that's like you going to work at McDonald's.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: I just feel like that there should have been an understanding even between the family and her. Like, okay, if y' all come on the show, this is what I'm going to do for you. But because, no, it wasn't said right. Technically, you just showing up.
[00:34:42] Speaker C: Yeah, you just showing up in her show. Basically, you intervening, interacting in her life every day, and she recording it.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: I.
Right and right and wrong is wrong, and I just can't see me Right.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: Right is right and wrong is wrong. And. And no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. But you're gonna. But you. But you got also have to remember that there are going to be family members who are going to try to monopolize on your fame. So. So me and Liz, your sisters, and you got a reality show, right? And so you say, hey, y' all, I got a reality show. Y' all gonna make some special guest appearances, and I'm gonna hit y' all off with some money. You know, everything's gonna be great. We on the show. We eating, we going to events with her. We. We ain't paying for none of this. Listening.
She taking us shopping. You know, whatever. Whatever.
End of the show comes, Camille hands us a check for $25,000. You might be all right with your $25,000. Shit. I done ate, I done partied, I done had a ball, I done got me some little side deals. With that understanding, I'm looking at the motherfucker like $25,000.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Bitch, you made a million dollars. How the fuck.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: How much was your check?
[00:35:56] Speaker D: Well.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: Hold the fuck up.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: So me being in business, being.
Being just around business owners all my life, right?
I resent people who ask employees, who ask employers, how much you got paid?
Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. You agreed to whatever you got paid. That's what you agree to. So if you. If you got paid $2,000 for a job. We did. And I got paid for $2 million. I got paid $2 million. Guess what? You agreed to that 2000. My. My business is. What's in my account is not your business. What I got paid is unless we did not come to an agreement initially.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: I understand that.
[00:36:42] Speaker C: Well, employee employers are going to get paid more because.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: But you're saying that this is an actual contractual agreement between Toya and. No.
With the job. And you be getting the 2 million and I'm getting the 2,000. However, when there unspoken.
[00:36:59] Speaker C: Yeah, y' all gonna be good.
[00:37:03] Speaker A: That's when the whole mind fucking goes into. Well, wait a minute now. Yeah, I don't. Because now there's no agreement. Now, that's allowed.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: You got paid a million dollars and you didn't give me.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: And you about to give me $25,000. Now, hold on. We ain't taking away that. What did your hair and makeup cost during the show? See, these are things that, as a business owner, to look at when.
Well, y' all don't count the cost of the utilities and the space that we had to use. All of this came from me. We never filmed at your house.
[00:37:43] Speaker C: This and that.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: I did this. But then I don't feel like. But I feel like when you're a good person and, you know, I'm not just going out here trying to shit you. I don't like when people question me about. So you really just think I will fucking take advantage of you like that?
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Like Ronnie did with the whole. When, you know, everybody had to pay the 250.
And so Ronnie is taking me to court for this contract. So that's why I can bring this up.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: So.
So, yeah, you know, you are questioning me. You say you have $20 million sitting somewhere and you questioning me about $250. Like, you know, I resented that, too.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: Yeah. That's petty.
[00:38:31] Speaker C: But it's because of how the things went down. So of course he gonna be petty about it. So that's what it is.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: I wouldn't give a fuck how it went down.
[00:38:39] Speaker C: But you have to look at the.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Person.
[00:38:43] Speaker A: And see those are the people who.
I'm glad God don't even put in my space. Cause, see, that'll be some shit. Make me wanna fight somebody.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm so beyond fighting. I know.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: I know. And I'm beyond fighting, too. I talk shit like I'm gonna beat somebody ass, but I ain't really gonna beat nobody ass unless they put their hands on me first.
[00:39:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: However, I can have that feeling of, girl, stay the fuck away from me before I beat your ass. Cause I know if it came to that, I would.
And I don't ever want anybody to. To take me to that place because it's not gonna be nice.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: Just stay the fuck away.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying.
Right. And so.
[00:39:22] Speaker B: And believe I'm gonna stay the fuck away.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: From you. With that being said, I would rather I done lost hundreds and thousands of dollars with motherfuckers and.
Lesson learned, period. That is the end of this. And I'm gonna walk away from you and be done right with Grace because it's gonna cost me more money to get my ass out of jail to fight you in court.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: She had that on my record.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: All of that.
So it comes down to all that. What does this really mean to you? But then, I mean, in piggybacking off of what we were talking about, which supposed to be Diddy.
[00:40:06] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:40:08] Speaker A: Was all of the.
The freak shows and parties and was. Was all of that worth what you're going through right now?
[00:40:17] Speaker B: But when you think you gotta ask him that question.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:40:20] Speaker C: That's the power thing. Just like with Shannon Sharp. When you get to a certain status and you think you got money and power, you just really think you can do whatever you want to and move however you want. That's the problem.
That's more the problem.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: And I don't feel like nobody should ever think that they more powerful than.
[00:40:36] Speaker C: But they do. They do.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: God damn.
[00:40:38] Speaker C: But just like that, that.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: That.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: That Chef said if. If I said no, he was gonna do this and this and this. That's the. That's the end result of it. When people think they have too much power, too much this too. They think they can move how they want to move, and it's just not.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: Like moving like their guy. Ain't ain't nobody bigger than God.
[00:40:56] Speaker A: That's the problem what I'm saying.
[00:40:57] Speaker C: No, somebody will come and chop you down. But when you think.
[00:41:00] Speaker A: But what gives. What gives people that feeling of I can say or do or feel.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Money, come on.
[00:41:10] Speaker C: Yes, money.
[00:41:11] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: That gave him that God complex.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: It definitely ain't his looks.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: Baby, baby, let me tell you something.
[00:41:17] Speaker C: Just like you ain't never seen no ugly billionaire.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Even when I had.
There was a point in time where I had all the money that I could have ever imagined, and I still.
Well, I still did.
[00:41:33] Speaker B: You gotta. Okay, so you gotta. Just like these police officers. Did y' all say that them police officers just got offer.
What's his name? Tyree. What's his name that they killed out there in. In Memphis?
[00:41:49] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:41:50] Speaker B: The four black officers that killed that. The dude for a traffic stop.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: Well, they always getting off.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: They got off.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: So I don't even look for police officers to get.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: And have the nurse to plead not guilty. And it's. Well, same thing with Rodney King and everybody else. I mean, come on. They on camera, they walked away. The man. Anywho, so where was I going with that?
[00:42:16] Speaker A: I guess with power and money comes also accountability.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: But once you never. If you was a nobody before you had money, then you could.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: That's where I was going. That's where you was going.
[00:42:29] Speaker C: You think you changed your lifestyle and you suddenly got this.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: There are a lot of people that go into certain positions so that they can feel like they're somebody. And just like a lot of these police officers, they got picked on, they were bullied in school, and now they get to put on a uniform and a badge and they get to bully somebody.
Same thing it.
Same thing across other industries. Like, you know, I would even say with the politicians, they do it with pen and paper, but they're bullying people.
[00:43:08] Speaker C: Let's change this conversation. So remember I was telling y' all when I had a conversation with a friend who said that men don't benefit from marriage. Remember we talked about this. Since we have a man in the room.
What do you think about that? Is there any benefits from marriage for a man?
What's your thoughts in what aspect? I don't just benefit.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: It doesn't matter. What are the benefits in general?
[00:43:38] Speaker A: Why would a wife benefit your situation?
[00:43:41] Speaker C: What's beneficial for a man to get married?
[00:43:45] Speaker D: I think it's more the headspace of the man.
[00:43:47] Speaker C: True.
[00:43:48] Speaker D: I think it's. It's all the headspace of the man. If you believe that this woman.
I don't think you should get married for business decisions. I think that's when you're never. You're not going to be happy.
[00:44:00] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:44:02] Speaker D: Yolanda.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: What? That is a personal attack.
[00:44:08] Speaker D: Yes, it is.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: I don't get married for business. Business.
[00:44:10] Speaker D: No. I'm. I mean, you know how some people get married because they may be together.
[00:44:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:14] Speaker D: And then, like, just saying people, like, people move in together, the bills would be smaller. You know, we can take care of stuff more together. Some people see marriage as a business decision. You know, I'm with this person. I, you know, I love them. You know, we might have kids together. It's cheaper to keep her.
[00:44:27] Speaker C: Might as well just do.
[00:44:28] Speaker D: Might as well just go ahead and get back. We've been together 11 years. We might as well.
[00:44:32] Speaker C: 11 years. Don't talk to me for 11 years time. Or you just get married. You'd been by yourself, too.
[00:44:36] Speaker D: Yeah. So I. I don't know. I think it just depends on the man. I think that's.
Marriage is a beautiful thing.
[00:44:42] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:44:42] Speaker D: I think that when you're married, when you're married to the right person, it's beautiful. It's amazing.
[00:44:46] Speaker C: For sure.
[00:44:47] Speaker D: I would love to do it again, but I don't think it's in the cards for me. But I do think, why would you.
[00:44:53] Speaker B: Crunch yourself out if you would love to do it again? Why would you count yourself out?
[00:44:57] Speaker D: Because I, there's a particular type of woman.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: Because I think the way I have a warp perception of a husband, he has a warp perception of a wife. That's not, that's why we're back.
[00:45:07] Speaker D: That is not the case.
But I just think that people get into marriages either making compromises on certain things that might be important to them or saying, okay, I can be with this person and just this person for the rest of my life, knowing that there's a particular aspect of this person that you're not exactly 100% in on. And so you end up doing things that hinder your marriage being successful.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: I still don't think you answered the question.
[00:45:35] Speaker C: What I mean, he said there, let me mark my words, there is no benefits in marriage for a man.
[00:45:44] Speaker D: There is.
[00:45:45] Speaker C: Thank you. Okay.
[00:45:45] Speaker D: I think there is No, I, I, But I think it depends on. That's the reason why there's no answer. The reason, the reason I can say that there is no real answer to that question. I think that that person is just trying to get out of being married.
[00:45:59] Speaker C: Or being in a real relationship or.
[00:46:01] Speaker D: Being in a real relationship or being in it.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: Because if we're talking about marriage and benefits now, as far as, like, Because.
[00:46:09] Speaker D: I think the, the good outweigh the bad.
[00:46:12] Speaker B: No, I think the conception is that. I think so too.
[00:46:15] Speaker C: Oh, definitely my opinion.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: But I do, but that's not where I was going with.
[00:46:20] Speaker D: I'm sorry, I didn't mean, I didn't mean to jump into you.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: So I think that most men think that women are going to benefit financially in the marriage and that's what they're, they're honing in on. Whereas, like, we can take Cardi B, for example, her soon to be ex, or is asking for spousal support. So nowadays it's not guaranteed that it's going to be the woman benefiting financially in the relationship. Because I feel like a lot of these men go into the relationship already thinking about what if it ends like they're not thinking about it.
[00:46:57] Speaker A: Whatever.
[00:46:57] Speaker D: That's the next thing.
[00:46:58] Speaker C: Well, that's because they're already doing it. Before you get married.
[00:47:01] Speaker D: Yeah, before you get married, you're already Thinking of what the end is.
[00:47:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: What's going to happen happen if it's. So they're thinking about the ending forever.
[00:47:12] Speaker D: And people think. I think most people that go into marriage and this is most think about what they're losing rather than what they're gaining.
[00:47:19] Speaker C: Only thing you're losing is your freedom to go out and who you.
[00:47:22] Speaker D: I don't even know they do that.
[00:47:25] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. But when they get caught for it.
[00:47:28] Speaker D: But you shouldn't have had the freedom to do that if you was in a relationship.
You shouldn't have wanted to do that anyway. And so that's, that's why I say like my gauge of marriage is when I look at the person, is there a possibility I'm gonna cheat on you if I don't feel like there's a possibility that I'm gonna cheat on you? I mean, I already love you this and the third. But I've done some things in my younger years that you go. I've loved a lot of people that I've cheated on. Cheated on.
[00:47:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:52] Speaker D: You know what I'm saying? That's just a fact.
[00:47:54] Speaker C: But you grow, as you grow older, you get more mature.
[00:47:56] Speaker D: And now the relationships become a little bit of higher stakes. So I'm kind of really deliberate about.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: The relationships I get into at our age.
[00:48:05] Speaker D: Because I, I don't need to be. I don't want to keep starting over. I, I started over like 10, 15 times and I. Who wants to do that? Let's. No, let's just, let's just go.
Because now we don't got to this point. Now I don't.
All of us is. All of us got trauma. So I'm, I'm bypassing whatever your trauma is and trying to look past your red flags. You trying to look past mine and only to turn around and get screwed over again and start back up. Nah, I'm just not with that.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why the value of people are opting to just stay single.
[00:48:37] Speaker D: Yeah. But I think the value of marriage is having someone to share this life with. That's the value of it.
[00:48:43] Speaker C: You're gonna die.
[00:48:43] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: I mean, you're gonna die. That's. That's by yourself or with the, or.
[00:48:50] Speaker D: With a partner like, you know, who wants to be 70.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: I just still trying to go find the club and why people don't even see the benefit and the beauty in a up and up relationship. Like having that person, your best friend that you can do most things with and Nothing's going to be perfect. But people are so eager to just give up on people so easily. Whether it's relationships, family or whatnot. People just give up on people easily.
[00:49:21] Speaker D: A close friend of mine just got married last week, Friday.
Most beautiful thing it took him.
Now, if you told me, doc, we gonna get married, I didn't tell you the lie, but Doc got married beautiful lady. And he was with her for a while and they had a daughter. And he said it was his 50th birthday party and this woman literally reached out to every friend she could possibly find without letting him know.
So there was people that didn't make it because she wanted to be the one to invite everybody. So she got this person's number to get the next person and she went in this all out thing. And he said after, I think like two days later, he ended up proposing to her.
And, and I said, I called him, I said, what is you doing? He said, he said, man, look. He said, I've been prolonging it and prolonging it. And literally I looked at her in that moment and looked around the room and what she had done to. For me.
He was like, how could I, how could I not marry her?
[00:50:25] Speaker C: Yeah. How many people would do that for you?
[00:50:26] Speaker D: Yeah, how many people would literally go out the way she went out? People don't care for him.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: Now you might have really don't care. People do. I mean, they, they don't care. People just don't care.
[00:50:37] Speaker D: No. And it's very selfish.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: She was very selfless.
[00:50:39] Speaker D: I was very selfless.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: So the way my best friend talks about me is, though I consider marriage is a business.
Just, just so we all know, I was married for four and a half years until my husband died. And I was in a business marriage, I was in a loving marriage. I was in a companionship. I was married to my best friend. So a marriage can be all of those things. He. Even when we decided to get married, you the brains, I'm the martial.
This is right, this is what.
But most of everything, most of all. And I have had relationships since. I have had to compromise myself so much just to be with the people that I was with. I've never had to compromise myself with my husband. I was allowed to be the woman I wanted to be. I could be my genuine, authentic self.
He ain't feel no way about it. He supported all my bullshit.
And that in turn, the way Doc loves on his woman and appreciates her for that moment, I appreciated my husband for allowing me to just be Me to have all the things that I wanted. That man groomed me. I didn't have a father growing up. That was my daddy, in a sense, because he taught me so much. So there was an admiration to him for the way he loved me the way I had never been loved before.
[00:52:13] Speaker C: He's being a man exactly as well.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: Right. So don't ever let anybody tell you what marriage is supposed to look like between you and that person, because it's whatever it is. It's whatever. It's whatever.
[00:52:27] Speaker B: Sign a marriage certificate alone makes it a business.
[00:52:29] Speaker A: Because I say my husband never had the bills. Ain't happen.
When I got married with him, it was. I'm taking on the responsibility. He did the breakdown of a man back in the day, went to your father to ask for your hand in marriage because now he assumed the responsibility of you. You're not coming to my house to pay no bills. I now take on the responsibility of all your bills.
[00:52:53] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:52:54] Speaker A: And I will give you money for everything you want. And I take care of this household and. And anything you want. My husband cooked, served me. These hoes out here making plates and giving to their man. That's cool.
[00:53:07] Speaker C: If that's what y' all do.
[00:53:08] Speaker A: If that's what y' all do in y' all shit. But I'm telling you, the husband I married said, go sit your fine ass down. I'm about to serve you and cook for you. And that was good for me in my house.
[00:53:20] Speaker B: Mm. Cause that wouldn't be good for me in my house.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: I mean, that's cool. But for our situation, it was great. And there were things that I did for him to let him know that he was the king in my life that I'm sure other women don't do.
So it worked for us the way it was supposed to work for us. And I probably will not ever get married again and find that type of love, but just because I had that for four and a half years and all the years prior to when we dated, I'm good.
[00:53:51] Speaker C: Well, mine.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: I'm good.
[00:53:54] Speaker C: We had a great marriage. I mean, we still really good friends. We don't have no. Like, if it's drama, we don't do that. Because we both the same. You got some bullshit going on. Keep it over there. Because we don't do drama, Right? If the relationship is full of drama, we probably not gonna be couples as friends with that, because we don't do that at all. And our. Our married friends was the same way. All successful business owners this. That. No drama. Because our friends were exactly the same way and they have long marriages as well.
Me, him, we, we like, we met when we was like in our twenties.
So as far as our ideas are the same hard working businesses, it's all we, we were like the same person.
Like I'm the brains of the operation, I handle the money this and that. He was like, hey, the money's there, do what you got to do. But he was the, the, the brawn of the, of the situation. That's, that's period.
And it's, we still cool to this day. Same situation. We got business together, just signed a multi million dollar deal.
And I don't be bragging on it because it ain't everybody business what I be doing and that's just how I like it.
But 3 million dollar business deal we just signed and guess who'll be running all that? He do all that and I still do the business, the paperwork, the payments, employees, all that stuff. Because we just had that type of relationship.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Right.
[00:55:22] Speaker C: And during our trust factor there and not once during our relationship when we were together, like just boyfriend, girlfriend, never drama, never arguing back and forth.
If I gotta have that kind of relationship, I would not do it.
[00:55:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
And that's where I'm at now.
[00:55:42] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: I would not do it. Never ever.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: I didn't do it in my 20s.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:46] Speaker C: And I'm not gonna do it in my 40s because if I got to be stressed, I'm not gonna do it.
So that's just, that's just me in general. I'm not doing it because, because I don't feel like if you're doing that in the, in the boyfriend girlfriend stage is not going to be good in marriage, period.
But my friend, his reasoning for saying he don't want to be married again, we can just be partners, is because the man loses all his finances. I said, well, what percentage of people, you know, in the United States as millionaires, first of all, only people with money are concerned about losing their, their finances.
[00:56:26] Speaker A: So what if you're a thousandaire? What, what is, what, what is the.
[00:56:30] Speaker C: Average person gonna lose in a marriage if you get divorced? You know, See I just, that's why.
[00:56:35] Speaker D: I think it's the wrong mindset.
[00:56:36] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:56:37] Speaker D: You're going in it looking at what you're going to.
[00:56:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:39] Speaker D: So lose whether you're gonna lose your money at the end of the day. But if you do what you're supposed to do and you pour into, you.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Don'T have to worry about marriage.
[00:56:46] Speaker D: You don't have to worry about money. You literally can build more with your partner, with somebody. That's why they say, you know, always have a circle.
[00:56:53] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:56:53] Speaker D: Like, you know, you can't be a singular person out here trying to do whatever it is.
[00:56:57] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:56:58] Speaker D: You even, even in business, you got to network with other people.
[00:57:01] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:57:01] Speaker A: But if you want to make it fun. But even as partners, to piggyback off of what you say, even if we decide not to get married and be partners, guess what I can lose in a partnership.
Myself.
[00:57:11] Speaker D: No, not only that, my peace. No, guess what?
[00:57:13] Speaker B: You can lose.
[00:57:14] Speaker D: No, there's more than that. Think about this. Think about this.
[00:57:16] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:57:17] Speaker D: Y' all are partners, right?
Let's say God forbid one of you die.
[00:57:24] Speaker C: Yeah, that was that. That was my argument with him, too.
[00:57:27] Speaker D: Insurance policy. Don't none of that go to the person that's left with this house you done bought together, these kids y' all got together, the dog going, the taxes, they got vehicles.
[00:57:38] Speaker C: And the state don't take it.
[00:57:39] Speaker D: And the state gonna take it.
[00:57:40] Speaker C: That's what I said. Do you know.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: And his next of kin gonna fight you in probate court for the child unbuilt marriage.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: That is, unless you got it documented the way you need to have it documented.
[00:57:53] Speaker D: But how many people are gonna do that exactly.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: Get married?
[00:57:56] Speaker D: He sound like somebody who's not gonna do that.
[00:57:58] Speaker C: Thank you. He was like, well, you can go put. You can go.
[00:58:00] Speaker B: But even if you get married there, I mean, even if you get married, there are situations. You can be married and purchase a home and the kids could still come after what you have. They can still take you to probate.
[00:58:14] Speaker A: As a wife or husband, because they can take you to probate, but you don't.
[00:58:17] Speaker D: They can take you to probate, but they ain't gonna win.
[00:58:19] Speaker C: But if you look at the state it goes from in the state, it goes from children to children and then grandchildren. I believe that's the state of South Carolina.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: In South Carolina, you still have to split it with the children. Children.
[00:58:36] Speaker A: It.
[00:58:36] Speaker C: It depends. This also depends on will the spouse always come first. And then if there's a will in place, you go for that. Because I deal with this every day at the va because this is what we do. If, if all those long term partnerships, guess what? They can't get on no VA benefits.
[00:58:53] Speaker D: No, you can, like prime example, like if I was to date somebody and, or, or end up marrying somebody, I'm probably an asset to them in a sense. They could get on my insurance through my job.
[00:59:03] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:59:05] Speaker B: People get on People's insurance through their job without being married.
[00:59:08] Speaker D: Not. Not if you get caught. That's your.
[00:59:10] Speaker C: Yeah, that's not. Yeah, a legal.
[00:59:12] Speaker D: That's not legal. Yeah, that's not legal. Like, I guarantee you that they catch you.
[00:59:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:16] Speaker D: Yeah. You done. Like. And then you end up having to pay back. I. And then I'm liable.
[00:59:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:21] Speaker D: Not the person that's. That I put on me, they gonna.
[00:59:25] Speaker C: Come after like my auto insurance.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: But if we. But if we're living and performing and. And going out places as a couple doing all the things that married people do.
[00:59:37] Speaker C: Why do you not want to get.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: Why, why. Why wouldn't we be.
[00:59:40] Speaker C: That. That. That was my understanding.
[00:59:42] Speaker D: Because he wants the right to walk away.
[00:59:45] Speaker C: Exactly. Exactly.
[00:59:48] Speaker B: You still got the right to walk.
[00:59:49] Speaker C: Away in a marriage.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Divorce me and walk away.
[00:59:52] Speaker C: What you're gonna pay because you in a contractual marriage at that point.
[00:59:56] Speaker D: Like me, me, when I get married, that's it. Like, it's. I'm not getting divorced again. I'm gonna die with whoever.
[01:00:03] Speaker C: You're gonna work it out.
[01:00:04] Speaker D: I'm going to work it out.
[01:00:06] Speaker C: If you marry, you got more to lose. If you just like, oh, well, forget it. We not together today. I'm leaving your ass and just going about your business versus you being a single person. As a single person and as a partner.
[01:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:17] Speaker C: You can just get up and walk whenever you want to. You ain't got nothing to lose.
[01:00:20] Speaker D: Divorce tough.
[01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:21] Speaker D: Divorce tough.
[01:00:22] Speaker C: Versus you being married.
[01:00:23] Speaker B: You gonna think about it, Especially here.
[01:00:25] Speaker C: Sure is.
[01:00:26] Speaker D: Me and my ex wife, neither one of us cheated on each other, so we literally had. We had to stay. I had to make sure that I didn't stay in the same house.
[01:00:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:33] Speaker D: For a year.
[01:00:34] Speaker C: That's how mine was. Same thing.
[01:00:36] Speaker D: And. And I mean, verbal abuse.
[01:00:38] Speaker C: Exactly.
[01:00:38] Speaker D: Didn't even matter.
[01:00:39] Speaker C: But mine cheated. So it was a little different.
[01:00:40] Speaker D: It was a little bit different.
[01:00:42] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. And. And still.
It was still the whole thing. You, my friend and her.
[01:00:47] Speaker A: Her.
[01:00:47] Speaker C: Her husband had separated for a little while. So after. Before the year, they got back together. But they get divorced again now because clearly it didn't work.
[01:00:55] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:00:55] Speaker C: But South Carolina is one of them states that make it hard that thing roll back.
[01:00:59] Speaker D: I think I made a mistake one time and I stayed at the house because the kids were there and she went out.
[01:01:06] Speaker C: Yep.
[01:01:07] Speaker D: And literally they told me I had to start it over because she was the one that reported that I stayed at the house.
[01:01:12] Speaker C: Wow. Your partner. You got a partner. Your partner can up and leave you with a. Not A damn thing if you want to. And he was saying that a man got way more to lose than a woman. Why the percentage of people equal the percentage of people that even got $5,000 in the bank account?
[01:01:29] Speaker A: Who got.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: The majority of people don't even have $5,000 in the savings account in the first place in the United States. So what are you going to lose? If you're talking about financially, you ain't a millionaire. You're an average walking on the street. What. What is it that you're going to lose? Seriously? Yo, yo, your richest.
[01:01:46] Speaker D: So do you stay with a person like that?
[01:01:47] Speaker C: I don't.
That's why we never went into a relationship.
[01:01:50] Speaker B: Freedom.
[01:01:51] Speaker C: Exactly why she said, I don't exactly why. Because if that's your idea, what are we moving towards then? Because we don't have the same ideas.
[01:02:00] Speaker A: I'm more concerned at this point in time with losing myself versus losing money. I can get back true things. I can get back. But I think once you lose a piece of yourself, sometimes it's lost forever.
[01:02:12] Speaker C: It's detrimental. It really is.
[01:02:14] Speaker A: And I can just see in dealing with these things, mongrel men with they mangy asses Every, every one that chips away from me. And that's why I just know I need to stay the fuck away from them. Because, yeah, I have never just dealt with this caliber of carelessness and triflingness in my life.
And I just choose to, you know, I can buy my own food. I don't need to go to dinner with you, sir, if, if there's no value there where I can learn something from you and you learn something from me, I don't need to be there. Yep, nigga, I. I'm going to eat and eat good.
Anywhere you can take me, I can take myself. That's travel, that's food, whatever. I don't need to be with nobody. So just know the same way, it's a benefit to you to have me around you. You will benefit me to be in my space.
[01:03:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: And that's what it should be. There's no compromising with that.
[01:03:14] Speaker C: I absolutely think you should always be with your equal.
[01:03:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:03:18] Speaker C: That way you, neither one of you got nothing to lose, in my opinion. So if you don't, don't take somebody that's a charity case, you don't have nothing to lose. Because both of y' all got the same thing, in my opinion, as my.
[01:03:29] Speaker D: Grandma said at our 10 to 8, we shouldn't be with nobody. We gotta fix up anyway.
I'm not Taking on no project.
I got kids. Them's my projects. I don't need another child.
So either. And I know I'm probably not going to make as much money as a person that I may end up with because I'm a teacher.
[01:03:50] Speaker C: At the end of the day, both of you make money.
[01:03:52] Speaker D: But that's what I'm saying. We're both making money. We're both out here working, both out here grinding. Whatever. I'm never going to take a dime from you because that's just not who I am.
[01:04:01] Speaker C: But you're bringing it together.
[01:04:02] Speaker D: But we bring it together. That's what I'm saying. We bring it together and whatever. And even then I hate debt. Like I hate owing people stuff. I.
For the life of me. No, I just. I despise it. So it's gonna always bother me. So to me, I think when you bring stuff together and you working together towards something else and you build. Yeah, that's different.
[01:04:20] Speaker C: Exactly.
[01:04:21] Speaker D: You over here talking about something. I don't want to get married. Cause man, shut up.
[01:04:25] Speaker C: When he said that, that. That made me look at him even more so.
[01:04:29] Speaker D: Because that means. That means. That means I'll be honest. That means he likes the freedom of the ability to cheat.
[01:04:33] Speaker C: To cheat and move. And that's why me and him, we. We gon friends.
Because that's the reason why I stopped talking to him in the beginning. Because it was going nowhere.
[01:04:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:04:42] Speaker C: I don't care if I like you. You cool. I don't like you that much.
[01:04:46] Speaker A: Nope.
[01:04:47] Speaker C: At all.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: No.
[01:04:48] Speaker C: But yeah, I was like, it's funny. He was like, what's more, what's marriage? Just a piece of paper. Well, your contract for that house you stay in is a piece of paper. But you assign a contract for that. Your truck, your car that you signed. You signed a contract at that dealership. That's. That's a piece of paper.
[01:05:02] Speaker A: Your job.
[01:05:03] Speaker C: But you signed those contracts.
But you don't sign up for a marriage because you want the freedom to do what you want to do in the end. Because you get tired of being that person, you can walk away easy.
[01:05:14] Speaker A: We're on our last minute. Do you want to chime in?
[01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I want to just say that Mo is having his 50th birthday party, a day party and evening party, coming this Saturday.
Well, on June 7th at Mahogany. It's an all white party and he would love for the city to come out and celebrate with him again. If you are interested in pressure washing, please call Water Slingers at 803 476-2342 and if you are in the market to purchase or sell a home, please give me a call. There are many programs out there with down payment assistance for first time home buyers and otherwise. Please give me a call at 803-552-5160. You can find me on Tick tock at Camille, bosses of Columbia, Facebook, Camille ware and Instagram Camille Ware Realtor have a wonderful week.
[01:06:09] Speaker A: Oh well, hold on. We got to plug social media. Social media, my social media.
[01:06:15] Speaker B: I have a wonderful week for me. I'm not from Boston. Can I say wonderful week from Camille.
[01:06:22] Speaker A: Hold on.
[01:06:23] Speaker C: My social media IGN TikTok and YouTube is all three BGCEO.
[01:06:29] Speaker A: Okay. And I am Nurse Pretty 23 on Instagram, Yoshiolanda, facebook and I think I'm nurse pretty on TikTok too. But you can find us all on bosses of Columbia on TikTok as well. And now we can have a good week.
[01:06:49] Speaker B: Have a wonderful week. Everyone from the bosses of Columbia making the fire in their eyes tails on.
[01:06:55] Speaker A: The table with a south side grind.
[01:06:57] Speaker B: Turning every hour into dollar sign.
